December 8, 2006 He has been married to Joyce Fleenor since 21 November 1964. August 7, 2018 I had a Mickey Lolich mitt. I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. Mickey Lolich's Donuts would be a good name for a band. Raymond Malcuit 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. He had terrific stuff. Other than some one saying he ate donuts rather than come back to NY, does anyone know the real reason why he didn't pitch in 77? End of Line So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. The Mets traded the best player they ever had for a bunch of stiffs. murphy I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. Staub a great fielder with a great arm? HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. But Don Grant was bananas, and he took the first decent offer he received. He never had much to say about Lolich's donut shop though. But then Vail got hurt, and Kranepool and the aging Torre got more playing time.The better plan was to keep Staub, and let Milner and Vail fight for a spot. However, Mets management, in their infinite wisdom, wanted to trade Rusty Staub so badly, that they were willing to get anything in return, and actually had to go to great lengths to convince Lolich to come to the Mets. April 30, 2009 Named to Michigan Hall of Fame, 1982, Oregon Hall of Fame, 1984. Lolich was a good pitcher in his prime - he won 3 games in the '68 Series vs. the Cardinals, including Game 7. Randy Tate No contest. He later came back to play for the Padres. June 2, 2006 September 25, 2013 mets Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. bob saunders Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. October 19, 2011 When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. April 23, 2003 April 27, 2013 Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. End of Line Not that THAT did squat for the Mets! I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. Bob P April 23, 2003 Bobster1985 He and Al Kaline both starred on the Tigers' 1968 World Series Championship team. As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. January 12, 2011 Peter He later resurfaced with the Padres. Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the June 30, 2019 Mets who have appeared in baseball's Mid-Summer Classic. Shickhaus Franks He easily could have won 15 or more games with any support at all. Randy Tate September 12, 2002 But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. Raymond Malcuit I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. OK it was a terrible trade. Mickey was a fantastic pitcher for the Tigers. Mickey was finished and Rusty still had about 8-10 years left, even though the last couple were solely as a pinch hitter. LA-Mets senor ortiz April 24, 2003 April 30, 2009 Poor Mickey. October 19, 2011 That would make him a star in today's market. Bartolo Colon etc). to realizing he was one of the worst trades in Mets history, before Seaver went to the Reds. But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. That would make him a star in today's market. I looked him up in The Sports Encyclopedia 2002 and they have 6' and 210 lbs. But then Vail got hurt, and Kranepool and the aging Torre got more playing time.The better plan was to keep Staub, and let Milner and Vail fight for a spot. to realizing he was one of the worst trades in Mets history, before Seaver went to the Reds. Lolich was a newcomer that was a big loser, and he reminded us of how stupid the Mets management was for always going after fading superstars. The Tigers had some great years back in the late 60's and early 70's- much like the Mets. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. May 6, 2003 He may have left behind a fine legacy in Detroit but when he got to New York he stunk.You weren't happy with Rusty and we weren't happy with Lolich, so let's just call the trade a wash. Case closed. That's pretty good this day in age. Mets leaders, by category, in post-season games. Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. October 19, 2011 Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. December 20, 2019 Jamey Bumbalo Ramblin' Pete Did you boo him or make fun out of him? Jim Snedeker Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. Stu Baron Jamey Bumbalo etc. That would make him a star in today's market. The original Blawd Co. venture, but why begrudge them when their doughnuts are spectacular. Joe Figliola Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. mets He later came back to play for the Padres. But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. July 15, 2016 As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. February 25, 2003 He pitched very good ball for you. But then Vail got hurt, and Kranepool and the aging Torre got more playing time.The better plan was to keep Staub, and let Milner and Vail fight for a spot. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. Lolich's main purpose was to pitch and he couldn't even do that for us. However, it baffled me why the '76 Mets, who had Seaver, Koosman and Matlack, would trade one of their best hitters and an every-day player (and they didn't have that many good hitters) for a fourth or fifth starting pitcher. Mr. Sparkle The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! (thankfully returning in '81). This has never happened before? Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. September 25, 2013 But this one defied all logic from the beginning. Raymond Malcuit Jr. June 30, 2019 The fact that he pitched four consecutive 300+ inning years; that's like 10 years in today's game. Mickey loved his Harley. September 29, 2007 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. That would make him a star in today's market. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. The Purple Gang were a mob of bootleggers from Detroit in the 1920's. Mickey Lolich was a great pitcher in the American League. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. Bartolo Colon etc). Lolich may have been a great pitcher once, but by 1976 he was a has-been. God bless him wherever he is and good luck! As for all the innings Lolich pitched in Detroit, in today's game 300 innings is comparable to two full seasons, what with pitch counts and constantly babying starting pitchers. March 22, 2005 eddiek Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. Max Power However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. April 6, 2012 June 2, 2006 For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. In my opinion, there are only three candidates for worst trade in Mets history:1) Staub for Lolich 2) the Ryan trade 3) the Seaver tradeI believe the Seaver trade was the worst, for obvious reasons. Doug S. John Bruce June 11, 2003 pete Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. He still knew how to pitch but had no run support to get him a winning record. LA-Mets The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. November 12, 2006 The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. January 12, 2011 If he had finished his career in Detroit, he probably would have been elected to the Hall Of Fame, with perhaps two more seasons of 15 wins. Gary from Chesapeake Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. Ramblin' Pete Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. June 11, 2003 I would put Rusty for Lolich in second place. Shari And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. So he went from being the long-time Tiger Ace (and best Tiger- the 1968 World Series was won by him- and also almost the 1972 Playoffs) to just a nobody for New York- can you blame him for this back-stabbing trade by Tiger management? Shari As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. October 4, 2005 Man, he was a big one. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. Mickey liked his doughnuts. August 11, 2015 I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. He was overweight and kind of babyfaced but I don't remember anyone being more focused or a battler. to realizing he was one of the worst trades in Mets history, before Seaver went to the Reds. He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972). July 31, 2002 As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. Cut him some slack. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. bob saunders Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. December 8, 2006 So he went from being the long-time Tiger Ace (and best Tiger- the 1968 World Series was won by him- and also almost the 1972 Playoffs) to just a nobody for New York- can you blame him for this back-stabbing trade by Tiger management? Al This has never happened before? In my opinion, there are only three candidates for worst trade in Mets history:1) Staub for Lolich 2) the Ryan trade 3) the Seaver tradeI believe the Seaver trade was the worst, for obvious reasons. Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. No contest. 03 Dec 2022 22:30:00 Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. However, Mets management, in their infinite wisdom, wanted to trade Rusty Staub so badly, that they were willing to get anything in return, and actually had to go to great lengths to convince Lolich to come to the Mets. He may have left behind a fine legacy in Detroit but when he got to New York he stunk.You weren't happy with Rusty and we weren't happy with Lolich, so let's just call the trade a wash. Case closed. However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. Baseball burnt him out. GoMets2006 NYB Buff As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. July 15, 2016 I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. Bob P He wanted to finish out his career in Detroit, where he had some great years (the photo of him jumping on Bill Freehan after the final out in the 1968 World Series is a classic). April 24, 2003 Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. And yes, maybe Koosman had losing years in the late 70's but he had been a Met long enough with a winning record that the fans rooted for him. But then Vail got hurt, and Kranepool and the aging Torre got more playing time.The better plan was to keep Staub, and let Milner and Vail fight for a spot. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. May 8, 2003 He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. 6'1", 170???? Raymond Malcuit 1966 Topps Baseball Cards. Dianna Jeanneh Jones 6'1", 170???? We are going all the way!" The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. Mickey was finished and Rusty still had about 8-10 years left, even though the last couple were solely as a pinch hitter. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. Mickey Lolich W WB 837 followers More information Mickey Lolich Doughnut Shop Detroit Tigers Dessert Recipes Desserts Simple Pleasures Donuts Waffles Pastry Cookies More information . The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. Lolich was still productive but he was never accepted in New York because of whom he was traded for. Man, those pitches were big ones. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. That's more realistic but generous, I think! He later resurfaced with the Padres. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. Mickey did a few good games with the Mets as well as a couple shutouts. January 12, 2011 September 12, 2002 support. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. And, the old ballplayers coming into the clubhouse, introducing the people with them and mooching autographed baseballs. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. He told the New York Press, he pitched with his head and arm not his abdomen. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. 170 lbs.? LA-Mets But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. Lolich may be a legend in Detroit based on his 1968 World Series performance, but he was at the end of his career by 1976. March 22, 2005 Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. Mickey liked his doughnuts. Lolich's prized possession, however, is a glass case in his den that he said holds 216 1/2 baseballs. Ok, the height is correct but make no mistake,a consistent, determined winner, Mickey Lolich was in the spotlight throughout his career. So he went from being the long-time Tiger Ace (and best Tiger- the 1968 World Series was won by him- and also almost the 1972 Playoffs) to just a nobody for New York- can you blame him for this back-stabbing trade by Tiger management? Raymond Malcuit As it is, he was traded to a team with a set of already existent aces- Seaver and Koosman. No put-down of Mickey, but that teamed needed Staub much more than they needed another pitcher. (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. feat fan We are going all the way!" Mickey Lolich was a great pitcher in the American League. Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. Well, I've got a bad belly and a good arm," he says. Max Power But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. =Chuck= Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! I agree with Doughnut Shoppe patron. I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. Raymond Malcuit Jr. An E.R.A of 3.22 in the mid 70's was still pretty respectable. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. October 18, 2008 The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Dianna Jeanneh Jones Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. "I used to like to say, 'There are a lot of guys with good bellies and bad arms.' Watch. December 8, 2006 (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. We are going all the way!" Cut him some slack. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. To the guy who scored the game when Lolich gave up two homers to the no name pitcher- big deal? Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. Breck said he doesnt believe she has a substance abuse problem but he ordered the tests as a safeguard. They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. 1906 Pittman & Dean Ice Company. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. Mickey loved his Harley. Gary from Chesapeake I remember Lolich pitching some good ball for the Mets with absolutely NO run support. March 2, 2003 Dianna Jeanneh Jones And yes, maybe Koosman had losing years in the late 70's but he had been a Met long enough with a winning record that the fans rooted for him. Lolich may be a legend in Detroit based on his 1968 World Series performance, but he was at the end of his career by 1976. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? Lolich was still productive but he was never accepted in New York because of whom he was traded for. Shari However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. April 23, 2003 Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. Mickey liked his doughnuts. OK it was a terrible trade. October 18, 2008 He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. And yes, maybe Koosman had losing years in the late 70's but he had been a Met long enough with a winning record that the fans rooted for him. Man, those pitches were big ones. Mickey was featured riding his motorcyle. But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. That would make him a star in today's market. In one of his best games as a Met, hefty lefty Lolich (no doubt the prototype for David Wells), tossed 8 innings, allowing 8 hits and 2 walks while striking out 4, the only run scoring on a fourth-inning groundout by a young Dave Parker.Alas, with the Mets historically typical poor run support, Lolich left, trailing 1-0, for pinch hitter Mike Phillips, who fanned for the 2nd out of the ninth, before singles by Ed Kranepool (batting for Leon Brown) and Bruce Boisclair and a walk to John Milner loaded the bases for Joe Torre. Lolich may have gone 8-13 in 1976 but Koosman did even worse the next two years (1977 and 1978). Baseball burnt him out. The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. Dianna Jeanneh Jones Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. End of Line I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. Doug S. Pitchingwise, he made Hank Webb look like Tom Seaver. In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. Jamey Bumbalo All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. Jim Snedeker He learned to pitch lefty in order to strengthen his left hand and arm after he lost the use of his right hand for a few years as a child. I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. Man, he was a big one. The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. August 18, 2001 August 7, 2018 I would put Rusty for Lolich in second place. His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. March 5, 2006 As for all the innings Lolich pitched in Detroit, in today's game 300 innings is comparable to two full seasons, what with pitch counts and constantly babying starting pitchers. November 19, 2002 He was my dad's favorite Met, though, I think because here was a gut with a gut as big as my dad's who was out there flinging baseballs for money. I remember that the Daily News at the time would have a one-page section on Sunday that showed some of the athletes with their families away from the ballpark. No contest. The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. Peter Two quick points that haven't been mentioned:- It was Mike Vail's fantastic debut that led the Mets to believe they had a replacement for Staub. Yes, Mickey had some great years with the Tigers, no disrespect to him, but acquiring him at the cost of Rusty was one of the Mets' top three bonehead trades. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. July 15, 2016 Baked fresh in the in-house bakery, with delicious choices such as salted caramel, vanilla custard or a good traditional raspberry jam. Lolich hit a home run in the World Series- and so what does that mean, that he was a great hitter? Feat Fan Lolich was a newcomer that was a big loser, and he reminded us of how stupid the Mets management was for always going after fading superstars. Mickey loved his Harley. That's pretty good this day in age. snook He was overweight and kind of babyfaced but I don't remember anyone being more focused or a battler. Jamey Bumbalo A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. December 8, 2006 October 19, 2011 He played in Major League Baseball as a pitcher from 1962 until 1979, most notably for the Detroit Tigers. End of Line Robert Staub a great fielder with a great arm? They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. 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